WW1 Roll of Honour
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WW1 Roll of Honour
Can someone post or direct me to a website that lists all the names of the CH Roll of Honour for WW1? I'm interested because I am an Honorary Archivist for a regimental association and specialize in WW1 history.
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David Miller, pseudonym "Foureyes," posts on this site from time to time and has an extensive knowledge of this subject.
He wrote a fascinating article in a recent edition of The Old Blue, the old pupils magazine, which may be available online.
If I can locate it I will edit this post with a link for you.
You wouldn't be Steve Fuller researching The Bedfordshires by a strange quirk of coincidence would you?
http://www.chassociation.org/news/magazines/index.php
You then need to download the February 2008 edition of The Old Blue. The relevant pages are 27-29 inclusive. The footnotes referred to are contained in the file entitled "Compris Housey."
Hope this helps! If David reads this he may PM or e mail you with further information.
Another poster, "Rex," Rex Sweeny has an extensive knowledge too and may be able to assist.
He wrote a fascinating article in a recent edition of The Old Blue, the old pupils magazine, which may be available online.
If I can locate it I will edit this post with a link for you.
You wouldn't be Steve Fuller researching The Bedfordshires by a strange quirk of coincidence would you?
http://www.chassociation.org/news/magazines/index.php
You then need to download the February 2008 edition of The Old Blue. The relevant pages are 27-29 inclusive. The footnotes referred to are contained in the file entitled "Compris Housey."
Hope this helps! If David reads this he may PM or e mail you with further information.
Another poster, "Rex," Rex Sweeny has an extensive knowledge too and may be able to assist.
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Dear Andy: Many thanks for the ref. and the interesting article. I didn't realize CH would have lost so many men, and I'm still interested in a list of them. No I am not Steve Fuller. If you click on my user name you will see who I am, and Jodie Lovett (Coleridge B) could explain further, except she is somewhere in Wales! Many thanks.
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I am very willing to provide information on the WW1 Roll of Honour and, if needed, the Roll of Service, as well. I have completely revised and rechecked the Roll of Honour to the extent that I have established that one OB on it died in New Zealand in 1924 (of a poisoned foot - nothing to do with the war) and another died in Camden in 1950 (repeat 1950) of old age - again nothing to do with WW1. I have the death certificates for both. How they got onto the Roll is a complete mystery.
If you would like to pm me with the details of your interest and your e-mail address I will do my best to help.

If you would like to pm me with the details of your interest and your e-mail address I will do my best to help.
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Dear Foureyes: I'm an Archivist for the Oxfordshire Yeomanry Trust, a position I hold through a) having an uncle in the regiment (Queen's Own Oxfordshire Hussars) who died in WW1 and b) contributing a lot to the regimental history and helping to get a particular memorial erected in France. Jodie Lovett, daughter of a close family friend, is in the CH band and will be going to Ypres on an official tour in October. I thought that I might be able to give her info about CH men that would make Ypres/Menin Gate more meaningful to her. Of course, I'm sure the school will do that very well. It looks as though you have all the info I was likely to find, and no doubt the trip organisers have access to that if they want it, so perhaps I'd better duck out! Thanks for the contact. Peter Maasz
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Peter,
No problem. In fact, quite by chance, I know the man from Poppy Tours who will be the chief guide for the CH band tour and he already has a copy of my CH Roll of Honour. He is very switched on and is relating OBs in the Roll to individual battles, so what you intended is aleady well in hand. Good thought on your part though. It is interesting that even today people like you and your regiment are still erecting memorials to people who died in WW1. I have also come across a small village in Sussex which send a party to Flanders every year without fail.

No problem. In fact, quite by chance, I know the man from Poppy Tours who will be the chief guide for the CH band tour and he already has a copy of my CH Roll of Honour. He is very switched on and is relating OBs in the Roll to individual battles, so what you intended is aleady well in hand. Good thought on your part though. It is interesting that even today people like you and your regiment are still erecting memorials to people who died in WW1. I have also come across a small village in Sussex which send a party to Flanders every year without fail.
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David:
The battle I'm most interested in is Rifle Wood, 1st April 1918 and 8 miles SE of Amiens where the German Spring offensive was brought to a halt. Regts involved were QOOH, 3rd (KO) Hussars, and 20th Hussars; and the Canadian Cavalry Brigade who had fought momentously at Moreuil Wood two days earlier. The Canadians erected a memorial near Rifle Wood (Bois d'Hourges) in 2004 and largely due to me the QOOH were able to include a specific plaque to their dead. 20 men including my uncle.
Were any CH men in any of those regiments?
Peter
The battle I'm most interested in is Rifle Wood, 1st April 1918 and 8 miles SE of Amiens where the German Spring offensive was brought to a halt. Regts involved were QOOH, 3rd (KO) Hussars, and 20th Hussars; and the Canadian Cavalry Brigade who had fought momentously at Moreuil Wood two days earlier. The Canadians erected a memorial near Rifle Wood (Bois d'Hourges) in 2004 and largely due to me the QOOH were able to include a specific plaque to their dead. 20 men including my uncle.
Were any CH men in any of those regiments?
Peter
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There is a post running on the WFA Great War Forum started by 'Moriaty' who was asking for info about 2nd Lieut Aganoor. This name is on the CH war memorial. Responders to the post (under soldiers etc /soldiers) provide a lot of info about Aganoor and the action when he was killed.
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Peter,
The details I have on AGANOOR are as follows:
Name: AGANOOR, Aganoor John
Age at death: 25
House at CH: Peele B 1901-1907
Rank: 2Lt
Regt: Royal Fusiliers
Date of death: 15 Sep 1916
Where buried: Caterpiller Valley, Longueval
Grave: XVI.E.36
Remarks:
1. I cannot explain his first name, which is identical to his somewhat unusual surname, but it is correct.
2. He joined CH in 1901. At that time the upper boys school was located in Newgate Street in London, with the boys prep school and girls school at Hertford. I don't know which one Aganoor joined in 1901, but whichever one it was, he would then have moved with the entire boys body to the new site at Horsham in 1902, where his house was Peele B.
3. There may be an obituary in The Blue - I will have a look tomorrow.
4. I cannot find the site you are referring to so am sending this to you.
5, Why is this chap generating such interest?
Cheers!

The details I have on AGANOOR are as follows:
Name: AGANOOR, Aganoor John
Age at death: 25
House at CH: Peele B 1901-1907
Rank: 2Lt
Regt: Royal Fusiliers
Date of death: 15 Sep 1916
Where buried: Caterpiller Valley, Longueval
Grave: XVI.E.36
Remarks:
1. I cannot explain his first name, which is identical to his somewhat unusual surname, but it is correct.
2. He joined CH in 1901. At that time the upper boys school was located in Newgate Street in London, with the boys prep school and girls school at Hertford. I don't know which one Aganoor joined in 1901, but whichever one it was, he would then have moved with the entire boys body to the new site at Horsham in 1902, where his house was Peele B.
3. There may be an obituary in The Blue - I will have a look tomorrow.
4. I cannot find the site you are referring to so am sending this to you.
5, Why is this chap generating such interest?
Cheers!
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Peter,
You also asked about Old Blues in various cavalry regiments. The only one I can find is:
Douglas-de-Fenzi, AE, who was at CH (Maine A) from 1907-1911. He did NOT die in the war and I have no record of his rank.
I have a complete copy of both the Record of Service and the Roll of Honour and my unscientific observation is that not very many Old Blues served in cavalry regiments, and most of those who served in the Army were either in the infantry or the Royal Artillery. But, goven the overall national statistics, that is what one would expect.
I suspect that I may be putting my foot in it, but what does QOOH stand for?
David
You also asked about Old Blues in various cavalry regiments. The only one I can find is:
Douglas-de-Fenzi, AE, who was at CH (Maine A) from 1907-1911. He did NOT die in the war and I have no record of his rank.
I have a complete copy of both the Record of Service and the Roll of Honour and my unscientific observation is that not very many Old Blues served in cavalry regiments, and most of those who served in the Army were either in the infantry or the Royal Artillery. But, goven the overall national statistics, that is what one would expect.
I suspect that I may be putting my foot in it, but what does QOOH stand for?
David
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Peter,
I found the Great War Forum. Absolutely not your faul, but I wrestled with it for about three hours last night trying to register, obtain password, etc, etc. At every turn I received error messages and when I occasionally solved one a new one appeared. Life is just too short for that sort of complication and this CH Forum is a model of user freindliness in comparison!
The point I was going to add if I could have got on-line with the GWF was that quite a number of Old Blues joined the London Regiment, a rather odd unit upon which I have become quite knowledgeable. There is even a well authenticated story of the Civil Service Rifles, where there were three OBs in A Company and when one of them was killed, the olther two insisted that it was an OB tradition that they should bury him. As the dead man, Pte Flook, had been a junior in the same house as one of those conducting the burial (Bates), it must have been a particularly poignant occasion.
David
I found the Great War Forum. Absolutely not your faul, but I wrestled with it for about three hours last night trying to register, obtain password, etc, etc. At every turn I received error messages and when I occasionally solved one a new one appeared. Life is just too short for that sort of complication and this CH Forum is a model of user freindliness in comparison!
The point I was going to add if I could have got on-line with the GWF was that quite a number of Old Blues joined the London Regiment, a rather odd unit upon which I have become quite knowledgeable. There is even a well authenticated story of the Civil Service Rifles, where there were three OBs in A Company and when one of them was killed, the olther two insisted that it was an OB tradition that they should bury him. As the dead man, Pte Flook, had been a junior in the same house as one of those conducting the burial (Bates), it must have been a particularly poignant occasion.
David
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that has made me cry, OBs being a sort of surrogate family I suppose.
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David:
QOOH = The Queen's Own Oxfordshire Hussars, sent by Churchill (it was his own regiment) to France in September 1918 and the first Territorial unit to be in action.
Hope you have success with the WFA Forum because the info on Aganoor is very extensive and interesting. Let me know if you fail to access it or your patience runs out and I will copy and paste as much of the info as I can.
Peter
QOOH = The Queen's Own Oxfordshire Hussars, sent by Churchill (it was his own regiment) to France in September 1918 and the first Territorial unit to be in action.
Hope you have success with the WFA Forum because the info on Aganoor is very extensive and interesting. Let me know if you fail to access it or your patience runs out and I will copy and paste as much of the info as I can.
Peter
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"sent by Churchill (it was his own regiment) to France in September 1918..."
Do you not mean September 1914?

Do you not mean September 1914?
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D....d computers! They are always making mistakes! Of course, 1914! P