'Housey' or 'C.H.'?

Anything that doesn't fit anywhere else, but that's still CH related.

Moderator: Moderators

User avatar
darthmaul
Deputy Grecian
Posts: 224
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:56 pm
Real Name: Luke Fanthome
Location: Stockton-on-Tees

Post by darthmaul »

englishangel wrote:Do they still wear blazers? We didn't see any on Rock School, although as this was filmed in the autumn it may be that they are only a summer thing.
Blazers are only ever worn when someone purports to be unable to wear their housey - i.e. when on crutches.
L. Fanthome : Pe.A (03-05) Gr.W (05-06)
User avatar
englishangel
Forum Moderator
Posts: 6956
Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:22 pm
Real Name: Mary Faulkner (Vincett)
Location: Amersham, Buckinghamshire

Post by englishangel »

thanks darthmaul
"If a man speaks, and there isn't a woman to hear him, is he still wrong?"
sejintenej
Button Grecian
Posts: 4127
Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:19 pm
Real Name: David Brown ColA '52-'61
Location: Essex

Post by sejintenej »

AKAP wrote:I always wanted one of those stripey blazers and cravats that you got if you were awarded cricket colours.
Unfortunately my cricket was never that good.
ISTR blazers (with house badge), grey flannel trousers, white shirts and dark blue cravats but only at thye end of the '50's.
AFAIR we didn't officially have what you are calling half-housey. Full uniform or flannels if it was hot enough to melt the tarmac. de facto one might put o0n a blazer to do an urgent errand.
Having more money doesn't make you happier. I have 50 million dollars
but I'm just as happy as when I had 48 million.
(Arnold Schwarzenegger!)
User avatar
Richard Ruck
Button Grecian
Posts: 3120
Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:08 pm
Real Name: Richard Ruck
Location: Horsham

Post by Richard Ruck »

darthmaul wrote:
englishangel wrote:Do they still wear blazers? We didn't see any on Rock School, although as this was filmed in the autumn it may be that they are only a summer thing.
Blazers are only ever worn when someone purports to be unable to wear their housey - i.e. when on crutches.
Then again, now you can wear you own clothes when 'off duty'.

We had to wear some sort of uniform the whole time, so blazers were useful when you didn't want to wear your housey coat, especially at weekends (apart from meals / chapel etc.).
Ba.A / Mid. B 1972 - 1978

Thee's got'n where thee cassn't back'n, hassn't?
User avatar
J.R.
Forum Moderator
Posts: 15835
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:53 pm
Real Name: John Rutley
Location: Dorking, Surrey

Post by J.R. »

Still got my blue Leslie Phillips style cravat in the wardrobe.

Wore it to a party round our local club a few weeks ago.

Grand-Son said, loudly, "GRAND-DAD ! You look like a poof !"

Cravat has been dutifully returned to the wardrobe !
John Rutley. Prep B & Coleridge B. 1958-1963.
User avatar
Richard Ruck
Button Grecian
Posts: 3120
Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:08 pm
Real Name: Richard Ruck
Location: Horsham

Post by Richard Ruck »

J.R. wrote:Still got my blue Leslie Phillips style cravat in the wardrobe.

Wore it to a party round our local club a few weeks ago.

Grand-Son said, loudly, "GRAND-DAD ! You look like a poof !"
I believe the correct reply is "Ooooh, get you!".
Ba.A / Mid. B 1972 - 1978

Thee's got'n where thee cassn't back'n, hassn't?
User avatar
J.R.
Forum Moderator
Posts: 15835
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:53 pm
Real Name: John Rutley
Location: Dorking, Surrey

Post by J.R. »

Richard Ruck wrote:
J.R. wrote:Still got my blue Leslie Phillips style cravat in the wardrobe.

Wore it to a party round our local club a few weeks ago.

Grand-Son said, loudly, "GRAND-DAD ! You look like a poof !"
I believe the correct reply is "Ooooh, get you!".
Our Grand-Son is somewhat forthright in expressing his views, especially on the football pitch.
John Rutley. Prep B & Coleridge B. 1958-1963.
User avatar
Great Plum
Button Grecian
Posts: 5282
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:59 am
Real Name: Matt Holdsworth
Location: Reigate

Post by Great Plum »

Richard Ruck wrote:
darthmaul wrote:
englishangel wrote:Do they still wear blazers? We didn't see any on Rock School, although as this was filmed in the autumn it may be that they are only a summer thing.
Blazers are only ever worn when someone purports to be unable to wear their housey - i.e. when on crutches.
Then again, now you can wear you own clothes when 'off duty'.

We had to wear some sort of uniform the whole time, so blazers were useful when you didn't want to wear your housey coat, especially at weekends (apart from meals / chapel etc.).
Indeed, it started changing on my seniors - first of all Deps and Grecians were allowed own clothes for Sundays outside chapel and other official engagements..

By the time I had got to my seniors, this had been relaxed into the free for all that you see today...
Maine B - 1992-95 Maine A 1995-99
User avatar
Ruthie-Baby(old a/c)
Button Grecian
Posts: 2075
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:44 pm
Real Name: Ruth Tyrrell
Location: Horsham
Contact:

Post by Ruthie-Baby(old a/c) »

In my time (that makes me sound so old) blazers were few and far between and while I was there I tried to find out if girls could wear them but no one seemed to think so. There was the badge available for the pocket (Col B = red sword) but no access to blazers!

I agree about the crutches thing though, lucky it never happened to me.

While I was there no one wore their own clothes until my deps when Grecians alone were allowed own clothes on Sundays when not in chapel/dining hall.

Oh and all seniors on Saturday nights.
Ruth Tyrrell
Col B 90-97
User avatar
cj
Button Grecian
Posts: 1738
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:35 pm
Real Name: Catherine Standing
Location: Devon

Post by cj »

sausages_plants_and_goldf wrote:
palgsm93 wrote:Yup, housey meant the coat and "HOUSEY!" was a word used extremely loudly to annoy people especially at public events.
Inside the ring fence you can say 'Housey' if you really want to. Outside it C.H. suffices (but needs further explanation) - braying 'Housie' just makes you look like a kn*b.
Touche, and we've all seen it done. That's really made me laugh! My huband's just looked at me in disgust and b*ggered off to bed.
Catherine Standing (Cooper) Image
Canteen Cath 1.12 (1983-85) & Col A 20 (1985-90)

Any idiot can deal with a crisis. It takes a genius to cope with everyday life.
User avatar
JustRob
2nd Former
Posts: 13
Joined: Fri May 27, 2016 4:15 pm
Real Name: Rob Sanders
Location: Kent, UK
Contact:

Re: 'Housey' or 'C.H.'?

Post by JustRob »

I just noticed this old discussion while looking for mentions of the Housey toast, so decided to add my own opinion.

I'd always assumed that "Housey" was a reference to the fact that at Horsham the boys were organised into houses whereas in London they were in wards. Are there any historical references to "Housey" ever being a term used in London? No doubt there was a time when it was necessary to distinguish between the two premises. During my time at C.H. we still occasionally encountered Old Blues from the London school. Now that that distinction is no longer necessary "C.H." seems to be appropriate, except in the school "war-cry" of course. I recall an interschools rugger match at C.H. where the visiting team's supporters stood on the touchline shouting "schoooool", which seemed particularly unimaginative and not so easy to shout loudly. Regarding volume, my wife, who was raised in Surrey, has always found my original coarse London accent embarrassing when I revert to it. During a buffet in dining hall at C.H. on a speech day we recited the Housey toast followed by the traditional cry of "Housey!" and the chap standing the other side of my wife at the time visibly winced at my rendition of it. It was only then that we noticed the impressive gold chain around his neck. Apparently the Lord Mayor had been circulating around the hall but we'd been deep in conversation and hadn't noticed him standing there.
Lamb B 1956-63 now a Donation Governor
Straz
GE (Great Erasmus)
Posts: 115
Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:49 am
Real Name: Paul Strange

Re: 'Housey' or 'C.H.'?

Post by Straz »

Many thanks to JustRob for resurrecting this old discussion. It's been a joy reading the various opinions and anecdotes going back 20 years or so.
My father - John Strange (Mid A 1933-39 and Old Blue Editor, 1980s) - nearly always referred to Christ's Hospital as CH, as did my brother Greg (Mid A 1964-71).
"Housey" referred to the full CH school uniform, as well as the traditional cry shouted after the Housey toast. In addition it was used - at loud volume - by supporters of the school's sporting events.
"Half-Housey" was blazer, breeches, stockings, shirt and bands, worn when the weather became warmer, often a preliminary to flannels.
So that's my family's take on Housey.
As an aside, my wife - not an old Blue - accompanied me to an Old Blues Day some years back. Everything was fine until the Housey toast at the end of the lunch. When everyone shouted "Housey" at the top of their voices, she was utterly startled, to say the very least. I'm pleased to say that she's fully recovered from the shock and will be more prepared for the Housey toast next time we're at CH.
HOUSEY!
Paul Strange
Leigh Hunt A 1969-71
Peele A 71-75
Foureyes
Grecian
Posts: 946
Joined: Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:26 am
Real Name: David
Location: England

Re: 'Housey' or 'C.H.'?

Post by Foureyes »

I suspect that the origin of the term "Housey/Housie" is lost in antiquity. The earliest specific reference I can find is in Blunden's 'Christ's Hospital, A Retrospect' (1924) which includes an appendix on 'Some Christ's Hospital Words' (i.e., Housie slang!) which he says is based on an even earlier 1877 record. Thus, Blunden includes "Housey.... (As adjective or noun) Christ's Hospital."

Certainly in my time (admittedly long ago) 'Housey' as a noun meant the whole institution, but was an insider term used within the school and its alumni and would have meant little to outsiders, when the school would have been referred to by its full title. As an adjective it was used to refer to Housey uniform, Housey special (the end/beginning-of-term train between Victoria and Christ's Hospital station), etc.

The specific description of various forms of dress as 'full Housey', 'half-Housey' etc., etc, only crept in sometime in the late 20th century, but when you think about it, it is only using the term 'Housey' in its traditional adjectival sense.

David
Foureyes
Grecian
Posts: 946
Joined: Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:26 am
Real Name: David
Location: England

Re: 'Housey' or 'C.H.'?

Post by Foureyes »

Further to my post above, Blundell was quoting from "The Bluecoat Boy" by William Harnett Blanch published in 1877. (p.97.) As Blanch was at Housie in about 1844 this indicates that the word dates back to at the very least the early 19th century.
David
Post Reply