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[huntertitus]

Clint Rutley




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[J.R.]

Clint Rutley




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"Make my Day, PUNK" !

[Kim2s70-77]

Re RSM "SQUEAKY" Cooke, I remember him telling us, in the 1940s that he had received a bullet through the mouth, in the first World War, hence the voice. I also remember him saying "I Zigged--- when I should have Zagged !"
Did you also know that, in 1940 we wore WW1 uniforms, with puttees and broad webbing belts, only later did we get Battledress. The rifles were SMLE 303, from the first War.
By the way, puttees were still worn (Short ones) with Khaki Drill, in the Sudan in 1950, I found the experience of the CCF useful in getting the "Intervals" right !

Neill - I was in Oxford University OTC in 1981 and we wore puttees then!! (I was in the Artillery section - and we still used some ancient 105mm field guns as well as Pack Howitzers etc)

[J.R.]

Re RSM "SQUEAKY" Cooke, I remember him telling us, in the 1940s that he had received a bullet through the mouth, in the first World War, hence the voice. I also remember him saying "I Zigged--- when I should have Zagged !"
Did you also know that, in 1940 we wore WW1 uniforms, with puttees and broad webbing belts, only later did we get Battledress. The rifles were SMLE 303, from the first War.

By the way, puttees were still worn (Short ones) with Khaki Drill, in the Sudan in 1950, I found the experience of the CCF useful in getting the "Intervals" right !

Were you with Cpl. Jack (They don't like it up 'em) Jones, perchance Neill ?

(I don't think we're allowed to mention Fuzzy-Wuzzies these days ! )

[NEILL THE NOTORIOUS]

Two things ----
Firstly "Fuzzy Wuzzies" are , correctly Hadenowah, they were the local people, where I was serving in the Sudan, Nubian Desert.---- I knew them and loved them !
Kipling wrote a poem about them, as they were the only fighting men to break a British Square.
They have a delicious sense of humour, although (At that time) unable to fire a rifle, they understood it was expected to have the same effect as a spear , and If I missed --- they fell about laughing !!
Their main weapon was a long sword, witha Crusader cross hilt (Crusades) which was carried down the back and drawn with a hissing flourish, they could then make it "Sing" by twitching it. there was rumoured to be suits of chain mail, handed down from Generation to Generation, lovingly preserved, from Crusader times, as the best protection against a sword cut !
They fought, hopping forward on one knee, sword raised. I met one white haired Gentleman, who had retained his "Fuzz", normally shaved off when one ceased to be a Warrior, ---- He had fought at the "Great Battle" (Omdurman) when summined by the Mahdi (1898) and therefore, was a Warrior for Life, My Grandfather also fought in that Battle --- but on Kitchener's side !!
Secondly -- the worst weapon, in my experience was the PIAT (Projectile, Infantry, Anti Tank) which, when fired, had a delay between pulling the trigger, and the departure and kick of the projectile.
This allowed the unwary to relax their grip, just in time to receive a "Mule Kick" in the shoulder !


Gather round Children --- while I explain my part in the Napolionic Wars !!

[J.R.]

Secondly -- the worst weapon, in my experience was the PIAT (Projectile, Infantry, Anti Tank) which, when fired, had a delay between pulling the trigger, and the departure and kick of the projectile.

This allowed the unwary to relax their grip, just in time to receive a "Mule Kick" in the shoulder !

:

I've never had the pleasure of playing with one of them !

[jhopgood]

Probably on the wrong thread but since we're takin about GUNS

FACTS TO PONDER:


(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Now think about this:

Guns:

(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.000188

Statistics courtesy of the FBI

So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

Remember, "Guns don't kill people, doctors do."

FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN,
BUT
ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.

Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!

Out of concern for the public at large, We have withheld the statistics on lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical attention!

[J.R.]

.... and on a similar vein when I was instructing up and coming race drivers at Brands Hatch, one of us would start a lecture to the youngsters by showing a model of a high-powered car and then producing a replica AK47, the ask the question.......

"Which is the most dangerous, world wide ?"

I think you can guess the usual response.

[LongGone]

Probably on the wrong thread but since we're takin about GUNS

FACTS TO PONDER:


(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Now think about this:

Guns:

(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.000188

Statistics courtesy of the FBI

So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

Remember, "Guns don't kill people, doctors do."

FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN,
BUT
ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.

Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!

Out of concern for the public at large, We have withheld the statistics on lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical attention!

Tongue in cheek, but playing fast and loose with statistics. Total gun deaths in the US for the last reported year by the CDC were 31,000. Most of these were were intentional, not accidental. Granted there are probably some intentional physician-related deaths, but I doubt if it will significantly alter the total. The total physician-related deaths combines all hospital deaths, most of which have nothing to do with the physician per se.

It is the same type of argument that tomatoes are dangerous because 98% of all murderers are known to have eaten tomatoes.

[jhopgood]

Tongue in cheek, but playing fast and loose with statistics.

It is the same type of argument that tomatoes are dangerous because 98% of all murderers are known to have eaten tomatoes.

Who wouldn't like to play fast and loose occasionally?

You never know.

In the 16th Century those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

No smoke without a fire?

[NEILL THE NOTORIOUS]

The point about "Firearms" is that they are DESIGNED to KILL !

This is a job which they do very efficiently, when handled for that purpose ---

But just as efficiently when not !

The problem is not with the gun --- it is the Idiot on the butt end !!


OH ! BTW --- before anybody brings up the "Red Herring" about Target Practice -----
The purpose of this is to improve your AIM ---!

[J.R.]

The point about "Firearms" is that they are DESIGNED to KILL !

This is a job which they do very efficiently, when handled for that purpose ---

But just as efficiently when not !

The problem is not with the gun --- it is the Idiot on the butt end !!


OH ! BTW --- before anybody brings up the "Red Herring" about Target Practice -----
The purpose of this is to improve your AIM ---!

It's the same in the 'dog-world'.

Its never the dog, it's the idiot that 'owns' it.

I get really angry when the press malign Staffordshire (Staffie) Bull Terriers and even Pit Bull Terriers. Bought up and trained correctly they are as good as any other dog, even if slightly more exciteable.

Youngest daughter currently has a 'Heinz 57' at the moment along with her 'Rotty'. He's half Collie, quarter Staffie AND a quarter Pit Bull, (Don't tell the authorities).

OK, Kaiser is as mad as a box of frogs. but does not have an ounce of uncontrolled aggression in his body.

[Sallz]

One of my dads collegues had a Rotweiller cross with a doberman- huge and very strange looking dog but as docile as anything. One day he was walking it and let it off its lead, and a couple of teenagers decided to terrorise it (god knows why, it was nearly as big as them!), so it fought back, not causing any damage, just lots of noise.

Any smaller dog would have been fine, but because this was nearly 5 and a half foot tall with some rotweiller, it was considered a danger to society and had to be put down. Definitely not fair as the dog was as docile as the one from Peter Pan (It was even used as a guard dog when me and my friend wanted to camp in the garden)

[J.R.]

We are starting to wander 'Off-Topic' here. And I admit it was partly my fault.

Would Honourable posters like a new section devoted to animals and pets ?

[NEILL THE NOTORIOUS]

Yes please ----

I have just replied to a Private Message, explaining how I was shot in the back !!!
because we seem to be on Guns !