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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:21 pm
by UserRequestedRemoval
I didn't know that Mary, the community here has very little intolerance, I wonder if the problem is a more localised thing. Most people here are Pakistani in origin.
The big thing here is that there is a link between Asian women and ricketts when breastfeeding so they are all being given Vit D supplements
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:52 pm
by Jude
we could go on to the area of those who decide to live in Britain should at least start conforming to British laws and socialising - the problem we have with extremists is that we have always been such a soft option for immigrants (and yes I suppose I am by rights going back to my great grandmother), but at least I don't go around throwing bombs, or shouting slogans or am blatently anti-racist - however, it seems that eveyone from around the world wants to great a little India here, Pakistan there, Afganistan over there, and Islam here in Glos! - what happened to "when in Rome"???
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:11 pm
by UserRequestedRemoval
I just had my hair cut by my daughter!
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:15 pm
by Jude
soc wrote:I just had my hair cut by my daughter!
Good for her- saving you money (Ihope!)
Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:38 pm
by englishangel
I think lactose intolerant is mainly East Asians, Japanes, chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese etc.
The Vitamin D thing is of course because the women won't get as much sun here as they would in their land of origin.
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:22 pm
by Jude
englishangel wrote:I think lactose intolerant is mainly East Asians, Japanes, chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese etc.
The Vitamin D thing is of course because the women won't get as much sun here as they would in their land of origin.
You are correct Mary - although if they ate suitable vegitable fats or nuts then they would get the vit D & A that they need!
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:37 pm
by UserRequestedRemoval
This lactose thing has doctors worried up here. Ann (my wife) is a breast feeding consellor and she has just been briefed by the midwife co-ordinator to make a huge point about vit D on her visits.
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:30 pm
by Jude
soc wrote:This lactose thing has doctors worried up here. Ann (my wife) is a breast feeding consellor and she has just been briefed by the midwife co-ordinator to make a huge point about vit D on her visits.
Well there is an answer - tell them to go home to their own countries and have whatever it is they are missing from this country
Ducks whilst the bombs come from all directions!
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:46 pm
by UserRequestedRemoval
Yikes Jude! If I had said that I would have been in it up to my neck. The strange thing is that it is the women born here and therefore British but of Asian descent that seem to have the worst problems.
The sad thing I find is that the women who have emigrated to theis country think it is best to bottle feed because that is the way it is done predominantly in the west. Convincing them that their mothers (who breast fed) were right and it is us (those who do it because it seems easier) who are wrong.
Oh no, time to get off the soap box.
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:53 pm
by Katharine
I was reading just this week that very early (first few hours) breast feeding is one of the best ways of preventing neonatal deaths - I think it was in the Independent so Mary probably read it too. I was still breast feeding Jeremy when we went to Pakistan, he was six months old at the time. When we got there the servants we inherited expressed great surprise at my doing this for so long. I don't know whether this was because I was a Memsahib or what.
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:01 am
by UserRequestedRemoval
I think a part of it may be to do withan attitude they have (and I have been told this directly from people newly over from Pakistan) that in order to enjoy a more westernised level of comfort and convenience, they must take on western ways. It doesn't help too that all of the producers of formula milk powder dump hundreds of tons of the rubbish on the Indian sub-continent every month telling them that it is better for baby. How junk containing fish eyes can be better than mother's milk is beyond me
Damn I am sermonising again
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:51 am
by englishangel
I did read it Katharine. and apparently in Pakistan it is thought that colostrum is not good for the baby so they don't get off to a very good start.
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:28 am
by Great Plum
soc wrote:I think a part of it may be to do withan attitude they have (and I have been told this directly from people newly over from Pakistan) that in order to enjoy a more westernised level of comfort and convenience, they must take on western ways. It doesn't help too that all of the producers of formula milk powder dump hundreds of tons of the rubbish on the Indian sub-continent every month telling them that it is better for baby. How junk containing fish eyes can be better than mother's milk is beyond me
Damn I am sermonising again
Damn Nestle...
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:39 pm
by Katharine
I can well remember being shocked by the giant advertising hoardings for baby milk powders when I first worked abroad (Ghana). It was very definitely seen as being advanced and advertised as THE thing to do.
Mary, I now remember that I had quite a fight in Pakistan when Patrick was born to say that he would NOT be given any formula milk and that I would feed him from the first hour. The UK trained paediatrician was sure I was doing the wrong thing - I got my way!!!
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:53 pm
by DavebytheSea
Haircut, Ma'am?
