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Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:25 pm
by Jude
Great Plum wrote:Isn't most of the flag the flag of the city of London?
The top of the sheild is the city of London, the main part is the George Cross, which is fully allowed to be displayed anywhere - as are teh Scottish Cross, and teh Lion of Wales - stop getting your knickers in a twist - in Cornwall they have a black cros on a white background - that is the only part of the UNION JACK that is not incorporated - so if anyone has a grip I suppose it's the Cornish - but as I know DBTS doesn't speak Cornish and I do - ha! Un du dry peder pyhm vigh seth ech nun dek to that.
Also as it is the BADGE OF CH it may and is permitted to go on show - just as the BADGE of any school, club, union, etc.... For heaven sake there are enough crosses to scare a jew in this country!
It is all to do with moderation - I don't have a problem - if you do it's
YOUR problem not anyone elses.....
Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:26 pm
by englishangel
Great Plum wrote:Isn't most of the flag the flag of the city of London?
Yes, with the Tudor Roses (for Edward VI) along the top
Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:33 pm
by Jude
englishangel wrote:Great Plum wrote:Isn't most of the flag the flag of the city of London?
Yes, with the Tudor Roses (for Edward VI) along the top
One Tudor Rose and One Fluer de lys, the sword is the only difference in the red cross on white background that actually denotes London - the rest of the flag shows it is English not French, welsh etc......
Where did you all go to school??? This was bashed into my mind when I was a 1st former!!!
Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:41 pm
by englishangel
I wasn't looking at the flag when I wrote that.
Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 12:48 pm
by Richard Ruck
englishangel wrote:I wasn't looking at the flag when I wrote that.
Neither was Jude, I think, as there are TWO fleurs de lys on the flag!

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 1:51 pm
by Katharine
Jude wrote:The top of the sheild is the city of London, the main part is the George Cross, which is fully allowed to be displayed anywhere - as are teh Scottish Cross, and teh Lion of Wales - stop getting your knickers in a twist - in Cornwall they have a black cros on a white background - that is the only part of the UNION JACK that is not incorporated - so if anyone has a grip I suppose it's the Cornish - but as I know DBTS doesn't speak Cornish and I do - ha! Un du dry peder pyhm vigh seth ech nun dek to that.
Come, come Jude, we don't have a Lion but a Dragon. I can't see any of the Welsh flag in the Union Jack, so it is not just the Cornish with a gripe over that.
Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 1:58 pm
by Exiled_in_Rome
Wikipedia has more than anyone might care to read about the history of the Union Jack
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Jack
As regards Wales, it notes that:
"Wales had no explicit recognition in the flag because Wales had been annexed by Edward I of England in 1282, and since the Laws in Wales Acts 1535-1542 was legally part of the Kingdom of England. (The present-day Flag of Wales and St David's Cross are both 20th century inventions, the former based on a Royal badge and the latter on the arms of the Diocese of Saint David's.)"
Under trivia, it provides the following:
Trivia
- It is a criminal offence to fly the union jack from a civilian boat
- As it is a royal flag, it was abolished by Oliver Cromwell in 1649, before being restored, along with the monarchy, in 1660
Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:09 pm
by DavebytheSea
Jude wrote:... in Cornwall they have a black cros on a white background - that is the only part of the UNION JACK that is not incorporated - so if anyone has a grip I suppose it's the Cornish - but as I know DBTS doesn't speak Cornish and I do - ha! Un du dry peder pyhm vigh seth ech nun dek to that.
The cross of St Piran. I wonder if it should be displayed on Speech Day for the benefit of the Lord Mayor - himself a Cornishman ....... ???
Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:14 pm
by Great Plum
Exiled_in_Rome wrote:Wikipedia has more than anyone might care to read about the history of the Union Jack
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Jack
As regards Wales, it notes that:
"Wales had no explicit recognition in the flag because Wales had been annexed by Edward I of England in 1282, and since the Laws in Wales Acts 1535-1542 was legally part of the Kingdom of England. (The present-day Flag of Wales and St David's Cross are both 20th century inventions, the former based on a Royal badge and the latter on the arms of the Diocese of Saint David's.)"
Under trivia, it provides the following:
Trivia
- It is a criminal offence to fly the union jack from a civilian boat
- As it is a royal flag, it was abolished by Oliver Cromwell in 1649, before being restored, along with the monarchy, in 1660
Surely it's an offence to fly the Union Flag (not Jack!)
Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 4:14 pm
by englishangel
If it is flying from the jackstaff it is a jack
Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:40 am
by Exiled_in_Rome
there is a picture of the boys on the summit of Everest with a CH Flag on their website - if I could work out how to post images directly I would show it here (how do you do that?)
the photo is at;
http://www.everest-2006.com/full.php?pi ... hoto&offs=
and if that is too long a url to select, then look under "photos" on
http://www.everest-2006.com/index.php
Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:47 am
by Richard Ruck
Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:49 am
by Exiled_in_Rome
... not that I want to flood the forum with pictures or anything.. but how did you do that (post picture)... I looked in the "First time visitors" section but couldn't find out...
Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:53 am
by Richard Ruck
Right click on the image you want, select "properties" and copy the URL.
When you come to post here, click the "Img" box at the top - this will display
img in square brackets, then paste the URL, then click the "Img" box again.
Preview to check that it's worked OK, then submit.
Hope that's OK!
Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:53 pm
by J.R.
No futher posts for seven hours ?
..........is this post FLAGGING ?
Incidently, and just for the record Hendrik, I am NOT a racist !
Look at the size of the UK, then compare with other European countries, then do a comparison per head on immigration.
Mr Reid had it just about right at the Committee hearing the other day when he called our Home Office, 'Inept'.
I'm just waiting for the heads to start rolling.