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Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:45 pm
by englishangel
No wonder I couldn't remember

Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:43 pm
by Foureyes
ST Coleridge. An Old Blue, of course, and these complicated rules no doubt hammered into him by Dr Boyer in Newgate Strret.

Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:00 pm
by sejintenej
Foureyes wrote:ST Coleridge. An Old Blue, of course, and these complicated rules no doubt hammered into him by Dr Boyer in Newgate Strret.
and it was a successor (of the same name) to STC's CH friend Valentine le Grice who instituted the proceedings to try to stop Prince Charles marrying the second time. The original Val became a rector in west Cornwall and prospered; Charles le Grice becoming Lord Lieutenant * of Cornwall.

*I don't know how to spell that word! Blame CH

Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:55 am
by kimchi
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Good morrow, everybody.

I'm sure you're as delighted as I am to hear that Kimchi is back, but UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT.

Let us forget about the past and look forward to the future.

Now for some enlightened debate.

In your opinion, how is Mr John Franklin upholding the traditions of CH?
How is he better than his predecessor? How is he worse?
What can he do to improve?

I would also like to know more about this proposed abolition of uniform.

Flaming always appreciated.
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Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:16 am
by Angela Woodford
kimchi wrote:I'm sure you're as delighted as I am to hear that Kimchi is back, but UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT
You got married? You're in jail? You are achieving your targets via a learning curve (lessons having been learned) and you're thinking blue sky thoughts outside the box?

Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:39 am
by Eruresto
The abolition of uniform is a tale as old as time. Rumour/legend has it, though nobody seems to have "been there", that there was/is meant to be/will be a referendum every five/ten years about the continuation of the uniform, and that each time the motion has been strongly carried.

Welcome back, Kimchi! Or Kimchi II?

Now, to your question! Fear not, anything I say here I would gladly say to JRF's face. Perhaps Kimchi is JRF!

Well, one thing that is certainly better is the disciplinary system, and as a result the social attidute. In the year and a bit since he arrived, JRF, together with his four deputies over the time, has tightened up and, perhaps just as importantly, clarified, the discipline system. As well as clearly labelling what will happen if X occurs, he has made it quite clear that some things which were going on are not acceptable, such as the screaming of Happy Birthday at lunch (or at any time - tuneful and timed please!), and the at some points quite raucous cheering at assembly. Some of this caused consternation at the time, but now that is settling the school is looking much better.

It is unfortunate for JRF that he seems to be shy. This was more damaging in his first year, as it was then more pronounced. As a result, the school has taken longer to get to know him; however, this year has shown a marked improvement. Over the course of the term handfuls of Grecians have been invited into the school office and then into his garden for hot chocolate and biscuits, to talk about things.

My only real criticism is that of the revised in-house times, and this is only for a different reason to others. Since I am a grecian, my prep concludes at 9.30, which is the UF in-house time. This makes co-ordinating meetings very difficult, but fortunately for official things I may sign out early, and for really official, staff-run things, the UF can stay out. Essentially, having no life has helped a lot :)

Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:53 pm
by J.R.
Thanks for the up-date Josh !

A very honest and open view of the changes since the new Heads appointment.

As an 'Oldie', I must say I'm glad to see he has tightened up on discipline.

Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:57 pm
by kimchi
Angela: No, no and no. The old Kimchi is unfortunately detained for an indefinite period of time. I am merely just righting some wrongs, and wronging some rights.

Josh: Thankyou for that excellent summary. You mentioned that social attitudes have improved, how is this?

J.R: Why are you glad that Mr Franklin has tightened up on discipline? I have been assured that the old disciplinary system worked just as well.

I would just like to point out that neither the old Kimchi, or the new Kimchi, have no affiliation to CH whatsoever, and are just well-wishers.

Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:24 pm
by J.R.
kimchi wrote:
J.R: Why are you glad that Mr Franklin has tightened up on discipline? I have been assured that the old disciplinary system worked just as well.

Discipline isn't there to be wielded like a big stick just for the sake of it. The word that SHOULD be linked with 'discipline' is 'respect', sadly a word that rapidly seems to be disappearing in this crazy country of ours.

You wouldn't expect to join the Britich Armed Forces and find discipline has been relaxed to appease the political correctness brigade, would you ?

Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:18 pm
by MKM
kimchi wrote:I would just like to point out that neither the old Kimchi, or the new Kimchi, have no affiliation to CH whatsoever, and are just well-wishers.
A confusing statement. If neither of them have no affiliation, does that mean that both do have some affiliation?

Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:47 pm
by Katharine
MKM wrote:
kimchi wrote:I would just like to point out that neither the old Kimchi, or the new Kimchi, have no affiliation to CH whatsoever, and are just well-wishers.
A confusing statement. If neither of them have no affiliation, does that mean that both do have some affiliation?
Quite agree Mary - a logical mind certainly can see it that way.

Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:56 pm
by kerrensimmonds
kimchi a traditional Korean dish of spicy fermented cabbage and radish

Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:27 pm
by kimchi
J.R: Kimchi totally agrees. Respect is a value that everyone should recognise as important, but harsh discipline is not always the way to enforce this. The Armed Forces should have a rigorous disciplinary system, infact, this is probably one of the tenets of every military, or paramilitary, force.

Mary: Kimchi is not a perfect being, and sometimes makes mistakes. Neither Kimchi, old or new, has any affiliation with CH.

kerrensimmonds: kimchi (kĭm'chē) n. 1. a traditional Korean dish made of fermented vegetables, normally cabbage, carrot, or radish, flavoured with chilli, salt and vinegar. Normally a side dish, kimchi is a staple of Korean cuisine.
2. A thin broth, made with noodles, finely sliced vegetables and kimchi. Another staple of Korean cuisine.

Kimchi's name derives from the second definition.

Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:35 pm
by kerrensimmonds
So kimchi has Korean connections (maybe even is Korean) but has no involvement in Christ's Hospital. So why is she/he joining in this Forum....?

Re: Becomming a New Dep

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:36 pm
by midget
And does he/she post similar questions in other places?