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What's that got to do with anything?TMF wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:50 am Do/did you know Breakwell, Pe.A.?
Plum knew him, apparently: https://www.chforum.info/php/viewtopic. ... 787#p29787
Just don't mention the old blue, convicted predator paedophile, Breakwell...right?
Both the above comments have gone over my head - I don't get them...
People can mention him all they want, just as long as they don't make up stories in their heads about who he knew, who taught him the dark arts etc etcTMF wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:28 pmJust don't mention the old blue, convicted predator paedophile, Breakwell...right?
Pe.A wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:53 pmPeople can mention him all they want, just as long as they don't make up stories in their heads about who he knew, who taught him the dark arts etc etc. As i said, it seemed more Clouseau than Poirot...TMF wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:28 pmJust don't mention the old blue, convicted predator paedophile, Breakwell...right?
Not sure where you get that from. My concern is the apparent assumption he 'learned his trade' at CH and, more importantly, the ambiguous questioning of Pe. A's and others' connection with Breakwell, nothing more.TMF wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:28 pmJust don't mention the old blue, convicted predator paedophile, Breakwell...right?
Reference Matthew Hopkins and the witch scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.Pe.A wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:51 pmBoth the above comments have gone over my head - I don't get them...
Just to clarify I was talking about the possibility that Breakwell might have known Husband and Dobbie AFTER he left CH and so far nobody on here has posted that he did not know them after he left CH so the possibility he discussed with them his predelictions post CH and possibly learnt from them is not implausible at the moment. That is what paedos do.Ajarn Philip wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:26 pmNot sure where you get that from. My concern is the apparent assumption he 'learned his trade' at CH and, more importantly, the ambiguous questioning of Pe. A's and others' connection with Breakwell, nothing more.TMF wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:28 pmJust don't mention the old blue, convicted predator paedophile, Breakwell...right?
Reference Matthew Hopkins and the witch scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.Pe.A wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:51 pmBoth the above comments have gone over my head - I don't get them...
For me, it was the assumptions that I took issue with. We have to proceed with what we do actually know, and there are a lot of mays and might haves in your comments, as well as blanket statements like "That is what paedos do" which I don't think actually add anything useful.AMP wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:14 pmJust to clarify I was talking about the possibility that Breakwell might have known Husband and Dobbie AFTER he left CH and so far nobody on here has posted that he did not know them after he left CH so the possibility he discussed with them his predelictions post CH and possibly learnt from them is not implausible at the moment. That is what paedos do.Ajarn Philip wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:26 pmNot sure where you get that from. My concern is the apparent assumption he 'learned his trade' at CH and, more importantly, the ambiguous questioning of Pe. A's and others' connection with Breakwell, nothing more.TMF wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:28 pm
Just don't mention the old blue, convicted predator paedophile, Breakwell...right?
Reference Matthew Hopkins and the witch scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.Pe.A wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:51 pm
Both the above comments have gone over my head - I don't get them...
Like some pupils he may have been aware of Husband's and Dobbie's offending whilst he was at CH. It may have influenced him during his formative years if he already had these types of inclinations.But I have not suggested anywhere that he learnt his trade whilst at CH or that CH has turned anybody into a criminal. That would be ridiculous.
Ah, of course...Ajarn Philip wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:26 pmNot sure where you get that from. My concern is the apparent assumption he 'learned his trade' at CH and, more importantly, the ambiguous questioning of Pe. A's and others' connection with Breakwell, nothing more.TMF wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:28 pmJust don't mention the old blue, convicted predator paedophile, Breakwell...right?
Reference Matthew Hopkins and the witch scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.Pe.A wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:51 pmBoth the above comments have gone over my head - I don't get them...
Seductive groomer or child rapist abusing a position of trust and power. It is all a matter of cultural convention for Breakwell and his acquaintances.the only difference between grooming and seduction is the age of consent
What does that actually mean...??TMF wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:09 amSeductive groomer or child rapist abusing a position of trust and power. It is all a matter of cultural convention for Breakwell and his acquaintances.the only difference between grooming and seduction is the age of consent
...Pe.A is trying to define child rape as a consequence of convention and that TMF finds that appalling. Nevertheless, it is good to know Pe.A's perspective on paedophilia.Let's be clear, the only difference between grooming and seduction is the age of consent - I'm sure the techniques are remarkably similar. People have always fancied, and will always fancy 14/15 year old girls. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with that, it's the law of the land that counts. Before I get mobbed for that statement, if one checks the ages of consent across Europe they range from between 14-18 - and in a country like Spain, the age of consent up until 1999 was 13. It is what it is - make of that what you will.
Excuse me? And what do you think my perspective on paedophilia is? I wasn't making any judgments, I was just stating facts (even though i was wrong about the age of consent in Spain - it was 13 up until a few years ago - since changed). What exactly do you mean by consequence of convention?TMF wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:31 pm It means that when Pe.A says:...Pe.A is trying to define child rape as a consequence of convention and that TMF finds that appalling. Nevertheless, it is good to know Pe.A's perspective on paedophilia.Let's be clear, the only difference between grooming and seduction is the age of consent - I'm sure the techniques are remarkably similar. People have always fancied, and will always fancy 14/15 year old girls. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with that, it's the law of the land that counts. Before I get mobbed for that statement, if one checks the ages of consent across Europe they range from between 14-18 - and in a country like Spain, the age of consent up until 1999 was 13. It is what it is - make of that what you will.