Exclusion ?????? WHAT A JOKE !!!!

[jtaylor]

Bedroom without.

'Experts' say a childs bedroom should be a place of safety and security. If a child sees their bedroom as a place of punishment, apparently sleep and behaviour problems increase !

Come back Spock - All is forgiven !

Ah - now I see what you mean - "worst" as-in not the best way to punish, as opposed to the worst (most effective and painful!) punishment....

Me being slow......I'll get my coat.

J

[jhopgood]

I'm afraid this Country is going to the dogs !

Would the last person to leave please turn the lights out ?

Jan and I are in regular contact with someone she used to work with. He served all his normal working life as a prison officer, before going into social care part time on retirement. To give you some idea how long he was in the job, he was one of the last prison officers to serve on death watch. (3 officers per condemned man).

He despairs now, still keeping in touch with the service as an advisor. Prison Officers are NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE any PHYSICAL contact with prisoners, except to protect prisoners from themselves, (self harmers); Protect prisoners from other prisoners or to carry out AUTHORISED body searches.

Your information about prison officers is at odds with what a recently retired UK prison officer here in the village told me. He gave me various examples when force had been used.
Mind you, he used to teach riot control for prisons and had a special team that worked for him, so it was unusual for him to get involved, but his team certainly did.
It may well be that only trained officers can use force, but force can be used, and not only for the reasons you state.
My late father, who was a policeman, used to regret the way that the world had changed so that there was a lot more petty violence and little support for what the police did. He had no solution but preferred the days when you knew who the villains were, knew what they were up to and where to find them after they had done a job.
He particularly disliked the glorification of the Great Train Robbers, since he saw the results of their handiwork after they beat up the signalman. Not nice.