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Re: The trial of Husband and Dobbie

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:24 pm
by HihihiMrDeltoid
From the Press Association.

Members of a jury were praised for their perseverance in sweltering heat as they deliberated on 21 counts of sexual abuse.
The panel of seven women and five men deliberated for 25 hours and 43 minutes over five-and-a-half days in the case of James Husband and Gary Dobbie at Hove Crown Court.
Their discussions were hampered by interruptions, ranging from soaring temperatures in the South East heatwave to difficulty getting to court on time because of cancelled and disrupted Govia Thameslink Railway services.
After the verdicts were returned on Thursday, Judge Christine Henson praised their fortitude in persisting in "difficult conditions".
On Tuesday, amid health warnings issued over the heatwave, the court heard some jurors were left feeling faint because the room was too hot. They were already being sent home hours early each day because of the unbearable conditions.
To resolve the matter, she and her clerk searched the building for a better alternative. They found a much larger, unused room in the basement with natural light and "the most fantastic air conditioning".
Extra staff were brought in to assist the move.
Several unused fans were also later found and used to cool the upstairs rooms.
Judge Henson branded the conditions the jurors were experiencing as "completely unacceptable".
The problem appeared to also cause delays to a jury being selected in the trial of five men accused of prison mutiny after a riot at HMP Lewes on October 29 2016, which was being heard in another part of the building.
Meanwhile, Dobbie and Husband spent much of their time chatting outside the court room and completing a crossword with relatives as they waited for the verdicts.
When they learned on Wednesday afternoon the jury would be finishing deliberations for the day, Husband was overheard joking to Dobbie: "It just means another gin and tonic Dobbie, think of it that way."

Re: The trial of Husband and Dobbie

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:38 pm
by J.R.
HihihiMrDeltoid wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:24 pm From the Press Association.

Members of a jury were praised for their perseverance in sweltering heat as they deliberated on 21 counts of sexual abuse.
The panel of seven women and five men deliberated for 25 hours and 43 minutes over five-and-a-half days in the case of James Husband and Gary Dobbie at Hove Crown Court.
Their discussions were hampered by interruptions, ranging from soaring temperatures in the South East heatwave to difficulty getting to court on time because of cancelled and disrupted Govia Thameslink Railway services.
After the verdicts were returned on Thursday, Judge Christine Henson praised their fortitude in persisting in "difficult conditions".
On Tuesday, amid health warnings issued over the heatwave, the court heard some jurors were left feeling faint because the room was too hot. They were already being sent home hours early each day because of the unbearable conditions.
To resolve the matter, she and her clerk searched the building for a better alternative. They found a much larger, unused room in the basement with natural light and "the most fantastic air conditioning".
Extra staff were brought in to assist the move.
Several unused fans were also later found and used to cool the upstairs rooms.
Judge Henson branded the conditions the jurors were experiencing as "completely unacceptable".
The problem appeared to also cause delays to a jury being selected in the trial of five men accused of prison mutiny after a riot at HMP Lewes on October 29 2016, which was being heard in another part of the building.
Meanwhile, Dobbie and Husband spent much of their time chatting outside the court room and completing a crossword with relatives as they waited for the verdicts.

When they learned on Wednesday afternoon the jury would be finishing deliberations for the day, Husband was overheard joking to Dobbie: "It just means another gin and tonic Dobbie, think of it that way."
Which just about sums up the cavalier attitude of someone who thought he was on a winner and going to get a not-guilty verdict.

I'm told the food in Lewes Prison ain't that great, which is probably where he is having to rest his weary head.

Re: The trial of Husband and Dobbie

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:44 pm
by sejintenej
J.R. wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:38 pm
HihihiMrDeltoid wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:24 pm When they learned on Wednesday afternoon the jury would be finishing deliberations for the day, Husband was overheard joking to Dobbie: "It just means another gin and tonic Dobbie, think of it that way."
Which just about sums up the cavalier attitude of someone who thought he was on a winner and going to get a not-guilty verdict.

I'm told the food in Lewes Prison ain't that great, which is probably where he is having to rest his weary head.
That is also the type of fatalistic comment made as prisoners awaited the hangman's noose.

As for the food I like the policy adopted in Turkey - prisoners are not released until all the costs of their sojourn have been repaid. I'm not sure if they are starved if the lucre is not forthcoming but our ministers are far too soft

Re: The trial of Husband and Dobbie

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:51 pm
by richardb
Prison food is notoriously poor.

But Husband might not find the sex much cop either.

Re: The trial of Husband and Dobbie

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:14 pm
by J.R.
richardb wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:51 pm Prison food is notoriously poor.

But Husband might not find the sex much cop either.
Not only is smoking not allowed, therefore tobacco is banned, and I understand KY jelly has to be smuggled in as well.

Re: The trial of Husband and Dobbie

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:37 pm
by rockfreak
The prison food can't be any worse than at CH.

Re: The trial of Husband and Dobbie

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:43 pm
by J.R.
rockfreak wrote: Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:37 pm The prison food can't be any worse than at CH.
Possibly Freaky, but I have eaten there since in this modern world, and was very impressed. At the very least, you DO get a choice these days.

Re: The trial of Husband and Dobbie

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:54 am
by bakunin
Any chance the old posts on this thread could be restored please, mods?

Re: The trial of Husband and Dobbie

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:04 am
by jtaylor
I have now reinstated the majority of the content of previous posts and topics, with some minor edits (all marked-up - only a couple) where people have been named/accused (without being convicted), where the user has requested deletion of their posts, or where wisdom from fellow moderators advises moderation.

Julian

Re: The trial of Husband and Dobbie

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:42 am
by dsmg
Thank you Julian, that seems only right in view of the convictions. Could you tell us now if Ali Burns' posts were censored by the board or he eliminated them himself.

Re: The trial of Husband and Dobbie

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:56 am
by jtaylor
He chose to delete pretty much all of his posts himself from what I can see - we moderated carefully (didn't delete any posts), but I don't think he was at all happy with that, and chose to remove everything.